Comments on: How a Vim user converts to Emacs http://bradbeveridge.wordpress.com/2007/06/21/how-a-vim-user-converts-to-emacs/ Letting my inner geek out Fri, 06 Nov 2009 13:41:55 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Jonathan http://bradbeveridge.wordpress.com/2007/06/21/how-a-vim-user-converts-to-emacs/#comment-243 Jonathan Wed, 14 May 2008 11:42:27 +0000 http://bradbeveridge.wordpress.com/2007/06/21/how-a-vim-user-converts-to-emacs/#comment-243 Come back to the dark side! http://technotales.wordpress.com/2007/10/03/like-slime-for-vim/ mwa ha ha ha ha! Come back to the dark side!

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mwa ha ha ha ha!

]]> By: Freddy Bob http://bradbeveridge.wordpress.com/2007/06/21/how-a-vim-user-converts-to-emacs/#comment-237 Freddy Bob Tue, 08 Jan 2008 17:11:10 +0000 http://bradbeveridge.wordpress.com/2007/06/21/how-a-vim-user-converts-to-emacs/#comment-237 Every time I switch from one buffer to another in vim and lose all my undo actions, I go a little bit insane. Every time I try emacs to write anything and the *&^*#@%^# TAB key doesn't work because the numb-nuts who wrote the mode decided that the TAB key shouldn't work there, I run back to vim. When I try and work out what is going on with the TAB key and find things like 'hairy mode' in the documentation, I want to open a vein and not one of mine. If vim could forget about keeping compatibility with vim (and ex for fuck's sake) it would be a lot better. Every time I switch from one buffer to another in vim and lose all my undo actions, I go a little bit insane.
Every time I try emacs to write anything and the *&^*#@%^# TAB key doesn’t work because the numb-nuts who wrote the mode decided that the TAB key shouldn’t work there, I run back to vim. When I try and work out what is going on with the TAB key and find things like ‘hairy mode’ in the documentation, I want to open a vein and not one of mine.
If vim could forget about keeping compatibility with vim (and ex for fuck’s sake) it would be a lot better.

]]> By: Brolin Empey http://bradbeveridge.wordpress.com/2007/06/21/how-a-vim-user-converts-to-emacs/#comment-85 Brolin Empey Sun, 07 Oct 2007 03:01:06 +0000 http://bradbeveridge.wordpress.com/2007/06/21/how-a-vim-user-converts-to-emacs/#comment-85 I have switched from XEmacs to Vim. :) I got frustrated last month because (X)Emacs never seems to be installed by default on Linux distributions. Vim, or at least a vi-compatible editor, is usually installed, but I did not use Vim enough to remember more than the basics, such as inserting and deleting text using only one buffer. I needed to edit /etc/fstab on a Linux system with only Vim available. This job requires copying and pasting text between at least two buffers. I tried to install XEmacs, but the connection to the Ubuntu package repositories kept timing out. :) I took that as a sign that it was time for a change. The best way to learn is by doing, so since then I have used Vim exclusively. I like Vim so far. Now I will always have an editor I know how to use available. :) I have switched from XEmacs to Vim. :)

I got frustrated last month because (X)Emacs never seems to be installed by default on Linux distributions. Vim, or at least a vi-compatible editor, is usually installed, but I did not use Vim enough to remember more than the basics, such as inserting and deleting text using only one buffer. I needed to edit /etc/fstab on a Linux system with only Vim available. This job requires copying and pasting text between at least two buffers. I tried to install XEmacs, but the connection to the Ubuntu package repositories kept timing out. :) I took that as a sign that it was time for a change. The best way to learn is by doing, so since then I have used Vim exclusively. I like Vim so far. Now I will always have an editor I know how to use available. :)

]]> By: On Lisp, Vim, and a whole other bunch of stuff « a modern day haze http://bradbeveridge.wordpress.com/2007/06/21/how-a-vim-user-converts-to-emacs/#comment-82 On Lisp, Vim, and a whole other bunch of stuff « a modern day haze Sun, 16 Sep 2007 12:52:14 +0000 http://bradbeveridge.wordpress.com/2007/06/21/how-a-vim-user-converts-to-emacs/#comment-82 [...] then I found this: For many years I thought that the heretics of the Emacs clan [1] were clearly insane - the [...] [...] then I found this: For many years I thought that the heretics of the Emacs clan [1] were clearly insane – the [...]

]]> By: Brolin Empey http://bradbeveridge.wordpress.com/2007/06/21/how-a-vim-user-converts-to-emacs/#comment-55 Brolin Empey Fri, 17 Aug 2007 07:27:21 +0000 http://bradbeveridge.wordpress.com/2007/06/21/how-a-vim-user-converts-to-emacs/#comment-55 I still do not know much about Emacs Lisp nor (Common) Lisp in general, but one of the (X)Emacs features I find most useful is the ability to use function name completion in the M-x minibuffer to find the name of the function I need, then query (X)Emacs to find which keys are bound to this function. There are some functions that I do not use frequently enough to remember to which keys they are bound. I like my approach because it prevents me from having to context switch to reading documentation and the inevitable sidetracking that ensues (I am highly tangential and consequently get sidetracked easily). I still do not know much about Emacs Lisp nor (Common) Lisp in general, but one of the (X)Emacs features I find most useful is the ability to use function name completion in the M-x minibuffer to find the name of the function I need, then query (X)Emacs to find which keys are bound to this function. There are some functions that I do not use frequently enough to remember to which keys they are bound. I like my approach because it prevents me from having to context switch to reading documentation and the inevitable sidetracking that ensues (I am highly tangential and consequently get sidetracked easily).

]]> By: cap http://bradbeveridge.wordpress.com/2007/06/21/how-a-vim-user-converts-to-emacs/#comment-53 cap Fri, 17 Aug 2007 00:58:11 +0000 http://bradbeveridge.wordpress.com/2007/06/21/how-a-vim-user-converts-to-emacs/#comment-53 Thanks for this insight, Brad! I went a similar path like you before i discovered Viper. I shamelessly linked to this site in http://clfaq.ath.cx , hope you don`t mind. Have a nice day. Thanks for this insight, Brad!

I went a similar path like you before i discovered Viper. I shamelessly linked to this site in http://clfaq.ath.cx , hope you don`t mind. Have a nice day.

]]> By: Mason Loring Bliss http://bradbeveridge.wordpress.com/2007/06/21/how-a-vim-user-converts-to-emacs/#comment-43 Mason Loring Bliss Mon, 09 Jul 2007 17:26:00 +0000 http://bradbeveridge.wordpress.com/2007/06/21/how-a-vim-user-converts-to-emacs/#comment-43 Meta key... Um... Go look at the latest GNU Emacs. The Meta key works nicely. GNU Emacs 22.1 supports the Mac out of the box. My wishlist for GNU Emacs includes: 1. Linear undo, ala the Vim default. 2. XEmacs-like gnuclient, where I can bring up a text frame from Mutt and not have to change to another window to edit my email. (All the in-Emacs clients seem to suck in various ways, and GNU Emacs, while it has a nice terminal, still can't beat the convenience of screen-running-in-a-terminal yet.) (And yeah, there's a multi-tty project, but it's not mainlined yet, and folks say it's unstable.) That said, I keep bouncing off of weirdnesses in Common Lisp and/or various implementations that set me back. This morning I bought a copy of Programming Ruby in protest. Maybe Paul Graham's ARC will light the way. Meta key… Um… Go look at the latest GNU Emacs. The Meta key works nicely.

GNU Emacs 22.1 supports the Mac out of the box.

My wishlist for GNU Emacs includes:

1. Linear undo, ala the Vim default.

2. XEmacs-like gnuclient, where I can bring up a text frame from Mutt and not have to change to another window to edit my email. (All the in-Emacs clients seem to suck in various ways, and GNU Emacs, while it has a nice terminal, still can’t beat the convenience of screen-running-in-a-terminal yet.) (And yeah, there’s a multi-tty project, but it’s not mainlined yet, and folks say it’s unstable.)

That said, I keep bouncing off of weirdnesses in Common Lisp and/or various implementations that set me back. This morning I bought a copy of Programming Ruby in protest. Maybe Paul Graham’s ARC will light the way.

]]> By: Jon http://bradbeveridge.wordpress.com/2007/06/21/how-a-vim-user-converts-to-emacs/#comment-42 Jon Wed, 27 Jun 2007 16:46:17 +0000 http://bradbeveridge.wordpress.com/2007/06/21/how-a-vim-user-converts-to-emacs/#comment-42 To the brave anonymous who wrote this above: > in summary, all vi users who refuse to convert are idiots. Please document yourself and have a look at this article: http://www.viemu.com/a-why-vi-vim.html Should help you get a clue on what we're talking about. To the brave anonymous who wrote this above:

> in summary, all vi users who refuse to convert are idiots.

Please document yourself and have a look at this article:

http://www.viemu.com/a-why-vi-vim.html

Should help you get a clue on what we’re talking about.

]]> By: ford http://bradbeveridge.wordpress.com/2007/06/21/how-a-vim-user-converts-to-emacs/#comment-41 ford Wed, 27 Jun 2007 15:47:54 +0000 http://bradbeveridge.wordpress.com/2007/06/21/how-a-vim-user-converts-to-emacs/#comment-41 Aquamacs is also a lame bastardization of Emacs -- set `mac-command-modifier' to 'meta instead. Aquamacs is also a lame bastardization of Emacs — set `mac-command-modifier’ to ‘meta instead.

]]> By: ferrari http://bradbeveridge.wordpress.com/2007/06/21/how-a-vim-user-converts-to-emacs/#comment-38 ferrari Sat, 23 Jun 2007 14:06:41 +0000 http://bradbeveridge.wordpress.com/2007/06/21/how-a-vim-user-converts-to-emacs/#comment-38 "And if someone f**KING mentions aquaemacs _one_ more time to me, I’ll reach through the intarwebs and rip their frikking gills out!!!" Mike, you may want to try Aquamacs. Meta key works just fine (like it works great with carbon emacs). And other than that, Aquamacs is like any other GNU Emacs out there. “And if someone f**KING mentions aquaemacs _one_ more time to me, I’ll reach through the intarwebs and rip their frikking gills out!!!”

Mike, you may want to try Aquamacs. Meta key works just fine (like it works great with carbon emacs). And other than that, Aquamacs is like any other GNU Emacs out there.

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